Brian Ruberry - Holiday Script Success

Holiday Script Success! After 40 years of rejections, screenwriter Brian Ruberry finally found success by writing a holiday script.

Screenwriter Brian Ruberry found success after a 40-year slog of rejections Now he can sell scripts just based on a 1-2 page synopsis so he is a real success story. He talks about how producers are looking beyond stories with typical Christmas tropes, opportunities in TV movies versus feature films, the value (or lack of value) of script competitions, and how to connect with producers.

Chapters
0:00:00 Introduction to Christmas Movie Screenwriter Podcast
0:01:44 Interview with Screenwriter Brian Ruberry
0:03:19 Brian’s 40-year Journey to Becoming a Screenwriter
0:06:48 Challenges and Persistence in the Industry
0:12:06 Balancing Audience Expectations with Freshness
0:17:06 Brian’s Inspirational Journey
0:21:12 Strategies for Expanding Network of Producers
0:26:41 Ideal Script Length and Producer Preferences
0:28:12 Brian’s Favorite Script and Lesson on Sticking to Your Vision
0:30:07 Maintaining Work-Life Balance and Hobbies
0:31:21 Advice to Younger Self and Getting into TV Movies Early
0:33:46 Reaching Out to Brian for Script Consulting
0:35:03 Key Takeaways and Insights from Brian’s Experience

Introduction to Christmas Movie Screenwriter Podcast

TRANSCRIPT

This is the Christmas Movie Screenwriter Podcast, episode number 12.

Introduction

[0:13] Hello and welcome to the Christmas Movie Screenwriter Podcast. I’m your host, Caryn McCann. The Christmas Movie Screenwriter is a podcast about writing, producing, and selling Christmas movies. I publish a transcript with every episode in case you want to look at something or read it later. Just go to the website at www.christmasmoviescreenwriter.com and look for this episode, which is number 12.

A quick few words about what I’m working on. I finished my latest Christmas script, and it’s out to readers. The plan is to start contacting producers by March 1st. I also started my next script, which is a little outside my wheelhouse. It’s a faith-based story but told from a secular point of view.

I can’t say too much about it yet, but what I like about it is the thesis is very controversial, which I hope will get people talking.

[1:06] My guest today is screenwriter Brian Ruberry. He has a very inspirational story. You’ll learn that he wrote off and on for 40 years until he got a sale. Now that is persistence. Now he can sell scripts just based on a one to two-page synopsis. So he is a real success story.

He talks about how producers are looking beyond stories with typical Christmas tropes, opportunities in TV movies versus feature films, the value or lack of value of script competitions, and how to connect with producers. Here is the main segment.

Interview with Screenwriter Brian Ruberry

Host – Caryn:  Today’s guest is screenwriter Brian Ruberry. Brian is an award-winning screenwriter, playwright, short story writer, and script consultant. He has an MFA in writing for the screen from Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles. He sold five TV movies in three years, including Merry Magic Christmas, airing December 17th on Lifetime.

Holiday Script Consultant

As a script consultant, he works with aspiring screenwriters to provide feedback and in-depth analysis for the screenplays and offer strategies on how to connect with producers. So Brian, welcome to the podcast.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [2:21]  Thank you. Thank you, Caryn. It’s great to be here. I’ve heard some of your other podcasts, and I love them.

Host – Caryn:  [2:30] Oh, thank you. Thank you. Very nice. Oh, thank you. Well, I’m contemplating doing this. Right now, it’s a biweekly. Sorry, it’s every month, two podcasts a month. But now I’m thinking of going to four because there’s a lot of interest and I love talking to producers and writers. And I want and eventually, I’m going to have some sales agents and distributors on the call.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [2:58] I’ll be tuning in then.

Host – Caryn:  [3:00] Yay. Well, Brian, I told the audience a little bit about yourself. But why don’t you take a minute and tell us about yourself and your work?

Guest: Brian Ruberry:

Yeah, so I’m a screenwriter. I wasn’t produced till rather late in life, you might say.

Brian’s 40-year Journey to Becoming a Screenwriter

[3:19] As you noted in my bio, I did go to film school at Loyola Marymount, but that pretty much was the start of what I called my 40 years in the desert.

Host – Caryn:  40 years.

An Unlikely Holiday Scriptwriter

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [3:36] 40 years. Yeah. So, um, you know, I, I, it wasn’t like I was writing every day for 40 years. I was writing often. I was with, with writing off and on, but, um, I should probably start by, by saying, you know, hearing some of the guests and hearing other writers say, oh, I always wanted to be a writer. Or, I wrote stories in high school and grade school.

I’m probably the most unlikeliest writer that you will ever, ever, ever interview. I mean, in high school, I had two interests, well, maybe three interests. But, my top ones were sports and playing football. I didn’t have any interest in writing.

[4:24] And but then, you know, what they say is one door closes and another door opens. And in college, I had a pretty bad shoulder injury and I stopped playing and just kind of on a whim, I took a short story course and I found out I had a talent for storytelling and had a short story published. But what I wanted to do was to write movies.

So I did. I drove cross-country. I went to film school in Los Angeles. And that was all going well. But I ended up moving back to the Washington, D.C. Area and continued to write. But, you know, it was the same old trying to write from the East Coast to get an agent or to get produced, it was just, you know, it was just a lot of doors, a lot of doors closing.

So it ended up being, you know, 40 years of hearing, you know, well, you’re a good writer, but, or, you know, thanks, but we decided to go in a different direction. You know, 40  years of just sharing, that’s a past. So, and then five years ago, I read an article in a screenwriting magazine.

Booming Holiday Script Market

[5:54]  About writing television movies, including Christmas movies, and just how many of these movies they make every year. Now, I never thought of writing a TV movie, let alone a Christmas movie, but, you know, obviously with over a hundred, at least, you know, well over a hundred just Christmas movies alone being produced every year, it seemed like a no-brainer.

So, I contacted the author of that article, and she said, well, the first thing you need to do is you need to watch these things. I watched a few on Hallmark and Lifetime, and I got it. I mean, you know, it wasn’t like, you know, the humor was, they weren’t like joke jokes. It was more, it was more cute.  You know, there’s no bad language. Everybody keeps their clothes on.

Challenges in the Holiday Script Industry

I got it I was like okay I see what they’re doing here I can do this.   So I wrote it I wrote a Christmas script and sent it into the author of the article.   I was expecting you know the same old you know we’re going in a different direction or something. And lo and behold she called back about a week later and said Brian I think I can sell this.

 That started and that script did get optioned and finally did sell just this past year.  I thought I had had it made.  She had me come out to Los Angeles.  I met with the producers. There was a lot of interest in my concepts and scripts.

Producers shopping around scripts but you know another two or three years went by.  Still no sales. It was it was, you know, I guess harder than I thought. It was like, gosh, I guess I haven’t cracked this, cracked this, cracked this, cracked this nut. And then and then finally, about three years ago, I went back to an old I did technically sell a script to.

But then, and I got to the stage of the first draft, and then it came back that was like, you know because the script had to do with an old historic house. And producers came back after all that and said, you know, and they’ve accepted the concept, they’ve greenlit the outline.

Then I got to the first draft and like, you know, we think we need to go with a more, some, something more, more contemporary. So we’re going to put a pin in the script.

Host – Caryn:  [9:00] Okay. Oh, too bad.

Guest: Brian Ruberry:

[9:02] Once. Yeah. So once again, it was like, oh, you know, back, back to, back to the, back to the drawing board. Finally, I wrote a script a couple of years ago about a woman who plays a researcher, a university professor who comes up with a study to match people based on the physical signs of attraction. Like, you know, it measures your beating heart, your dials, you know, your pupils.

But the producer thought that was just way too intellectual about you know it’s about a study and it’s science and so he had me change it and then ended up just being you know changing into something about she was now an entrepreneur and a dog collar a smart dog collar and the whole thing just ended up being a total mess and then one day um I was watching Netflix and my wife was watching show called The One about a scientist who match makes people according to their DNA.

And I turned to her and said, you know, I think I wrote something like this a couple of years ago. I went back to my original concept about the scientist and the study. And I wrote that I polished that into a new concept. That ended up being my first sale and production called The Attraction Test.

Host – Caryn:  Okay, great. Well, that answers my first question, you know, your journey breaking into the industry. But let me follow up on something you said. You said you contacted the writer of the script magazine, the writer of an article, and maybe a journalist. And she said something like, I think we can sell it. Was she a producer?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [11:06] Producer no. she was a she was a writer but she but she had a lot of but she had a lot of contacts so she was in that capacity I guess you know a wannabe producer well hey it just.

Host – Caryn:  Takes someone to pitch your projects on your behalf.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: Right and she knew a lot and she knew a lot of people she lived in LA and she knew a lot of producers uh she had a partial uh she had a co-writing I didn’t credit, in fact, for a Christmas movie, but she knew she was the first person to kind of introduce me to these producers who I realized that the world of TV movies is kind of a small niche world.

The Small World of Holiday Script Players

Right. And you’ll see the same just as you’ll see the same actors in these movies. you’ll see the same producers. And so that’s really what got the ball rolling.

Holiday Script: Balancing Audience Expectations

Host – Caryn:  [12:06]  Okay. So how do you balance meeting audience expectations while staying fresh and not predictable or cliché?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [12:14]  Ooh, that’s a tough one. I think what I try to do is, um, you know, and it’s, I try to think of things that I think are, are higher concept. My movie is coming out in a Lifetime, later this month. Merry Magic Christmas is about a woman who sees an angel number, a recurring number, and that number eventually leads her to love.

So it’s, you know, at times you want to avoid the tropes, but it turns out that the audience and producers want the tropes in there because they want something familiar.  Hallmark’s most popular Christmas movie last year was um uh Three Wise Men and a Baby which I don’t know if you saw that.  I don’t think that had any tropes in it.  And it was about three brothers.  They all have a love of interest in the movie, but it’s about three brothers. I watched it, enjoyed it, and didn’t see a lot of tropes. I’m thinking that they’re starting to look, look for new and fresher ideas.

Host – Caryn: [13:50]  That’s great. That is music to my ears. So after you finish the script and it’s ready to go out, what’s your next step? How do you move it towards getting into production?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: I’m to the point where I’ve already the script’s already been green-lit. So I’m you know, I’m writing under I’m writing under contract. So I don’t have to you know, I don’t have to necessarily sell it.

Benefits of the first Holiday Script Sale

The benefit, though, of being a produced writer, at least in the TV movie world, is while you can still write spec scripts, you don’t necessarily have to write spec scripts to get produced. Once you have a relationship with the producer, you only need a one or two page, synopsis and they will buy that knowing that you can you know to crank the script out and that you have the skill set to write the script so that’s the position I’m in now of I just have to write you know one or two-page synopsis and then they buy the concept And then we go to outline and script, et cetera.

Host – Caryn: So are you coming up with these concepts yourself or are they giving them to you?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [15:18]  No, I come up with the concepts myself, which is, as you know, not easy because there are so many Christmas movies out there. A common refrain that I’ll hear, particularly from Hallmark, is, well, we’ve already done that. Or we have something like that in development, you know.

So you almost wish that they would put out a list of things, you know, concepts that they have in development. You’re not, you know, just spinning, just spinning you’re just spinning your wheels. But when I first started out and again, this is one of the great things about writing TV movies as opposed to, you know, more traditional feature films is I bought IMDB Pro. I have IMDb Pro which has a lot of emails for producers.

Contact Holiday Script Producers

 [16:24] And so I tell aspiring screenwriters, you know, if you want to write a big action movie or something If you have that kind of a script, you could you could email 50 producers and probably not hear back from any. But if you have a Christmas movie for TV, you could email 20 producers and probably hear back from a handful of them. So they’re very eager for new writers. They’re very eager for new concepts.  And it’s just a great way to break in.

Host – Caryn:  Well, that is inspiring. And I need to mention, that you are inspiring. 40 years of persistence so I tip my hat to you.

Brian’s Inspirational Journey with a Holiday Script

Host – Caryn:  [17:12] How would you balance the heartwarming Christmas elements with other genres like let’s say I mean you’re talking about being creative how about a heist or some create creating a unique and appealing story?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [17:24] Yeah and it’s funny you say that because um I was talking to a production company I should say uptalking talking emailing a production company a couple of weeks maybe a few weeks ago or so just kind of you know hey so what do you are you what are you guys looking for Christmas scripts and um and he goes yes but here’s the areas that we’re looking at and he listed like three or four areas military he didn’t say heist but I think he’s I forget the word he used but it was like um.

I forget the word he used, but he mentioned specific categories that you don’t normally see these Christmas movies in. And that got my creative juices going, because when he said, you know, do something like, you know, Christmas spy movie or do a military, you know, that kind of breaks your mind out of that.

That girl meets boy, girl loses boy, girl gets boy back, that you tend to see these movies in.

So that’s a great way to think about these now, because now they are starting to, production companies are now open to get away from these sort of standard, you know, storylines. 

Host – Caryn:  [18:59] That’s great news. That’s great news on this. I’m curious because I wrote a Christmas spy movie called Christmas Undercover. And I’m just wondering, in your opinion, this is sort of off-topic, but in your opinion, are these producers interested in the still the lighthearted whimsical story or even with a spy element? Or do they want maybe a little more of a thrilling thriller element?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: Yeah, I’m not sure about that one. Because the concept that the producer took was a military concept. But even with that one, he said they don’t want it, you know, they did want it fairly lighthearted.

So I think I had maybe one or both of my love interests who had lost a spouse in the war. I think I had both. I think I had both of them. And they said, no, let’s just have one lead who’s lost a spouse. So I don’t know the answer to that question, but I suspect they probably still wanted a bit lighthearted, yeah.

Host – Caryn:  [20:14] Yeah, I think you’re right. So how would you suggest screenwriters expand their network of producers, for example, networking in film markets, which ones, competitions, or utilizing online platforms?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: Yeah, I mean, for me, it’s as I said earlier, it’s, you know, one is if you’re if you don’t have if you don’t have any credits, then you need to go beyond just writing a synopsis. You need to show them that you can write, you know, a hundred-page script. Um, so you need to have a couple of, let’s just say Christmas scripts, um, in the right format with nine acts, And then I would invest in IMDB Pro. And watch a few new Christmas movies.

Network of Producers for your Holiday Script

[21:13]  Don’t watch the old ones because they’re not using that formula anymore. More so watch some of the watch some of the new Christmas movies on Hallmark and Lifetime.  Then go to it pro you’ll you’ll see the producers and hopefully you’ll find an email or two on there and say hey you know I have a couple of Christmas scripts here’s the log line don’t send them the script don’t send them the synopsis.

Just send them the one or two-line hog line, and I’d be happy to send it to you if you’re interested.  You know, you talk about the script competitions, and I’m kind of on the fence on that. I’ve done it, and I even had not a TV movie. I had another script.

Three years ago placed in the semi-final of the Austin Film Festival and they made a big deal of it and they said this is you know this is like the top two percent of all the scripts and anyway the bottom line is you know nothing ever happened I never I got a request from, again, a handful of producers.

But I think you need, I think people, I think, to be honest, I think a lot of them, my wife is English and she uses the term honey spinners. I think a lot of them are just, yeah, are just ways to make a buck.

[22:55] I know they can be a good way to get feedback because often if you, you know, Some include notes for free, or some if you pay extra, then you get notes.

So they’re valuable in that sense. But I would say, with the one exception I would say would be Nichols, the Academy’s competition. I mean, if you do anything in that one well, then you’re going to get noticed. But much beyond Nichols, I’m not sold yet. I don’t know. You never know.

Host – Caryn:  Right so do you attend film markets to pitch your projects now I know I mean let’s say before you were so established or do you rely on a representative or a combination of both? 

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [23:45] Don’t have either I don’t or I should say I don’t do either I don’t have representation. I did have an agent, but we just didn’t see eye to eye on things.

And so I dropped him a couple of years ago and just do it on my own, which you can do, again, you know, which you can do in the TV movie world. And, no, I don’t go to conferences. I probably should. But I haven’t yet. I heard you talking to one of your guests about it I was like oh I should do that.

Film Markets and a Holiday Script

Host – Caryn:  Yeah well you never know you never know there is uh one of my guests goes to uh these romance writers’ conferences uh not she did she didn’t say the AFM she didn’t say you know uh MipCom. She said romance writers conferences because some producers will go They’re looking for movie ideas.

But anyway, one thing you mentioned earlier, you said now you can talk to producers or email producers, just a logline and maybe a synopsis and maybe get hired off that. How many scripts produced, produced scripts did it take for you to get to that level?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: I honestly just won.

Host – Caryn:  That’s great news.

First Holiday Script Sale

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [25:16] Once you’re produced, you know, it kind of looks like that, you know, that good that good housekeeping. That’s an old term, but the good housekeeping seal of approval, you know, and I’m not saying, you know, don’t write spec scripts any, any, any, anymore. I still do, but it’s, it’s so, I, you know, as you know, writing is a, can be a painful business.

There’s a, you know, there’s, there’s a lot of, um, rejection and, um, and everyone hurts just as much as the first one and the last one. And even now, you know, I’m told, you know, I mean, even, you know, I’m, you know, I’m told, you know, sorry, this is a this is a pass.

But it’s a little it’s a little, little less painful when you’re getting a pass on something that you did a two-page synopsis, as opposed to spending weeks writing a full script. And then it’s a pass. Yeah. So that’s the that’s the great thing, I think, about just having the credit. And producers know that if they like your concept, then they trust you to turn out the full script.

Ideal Holiday Script Length and Producer Preferences

Host – Caryn:  And that’s great. That’s great. Now, you mentioned earlier something about a 100-page script. Is that like the typical number of pages producers want? Or is it less or more?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [26:53] I’ve heard everything from 100, 102, 105. I wouldn’t go above 105. It’s usually a little bit longer than what they shoot because they want to have the freedom to, you know, to cut scenes just to make sure.

The first movie I wrote, I’m sorry, that was produced, The Attraction Test, they called me to expand scenes because the producer and the director, I guess, did a read and they said it was timing short, about 10 minutes short.

So I had to expand the scenes. Scenes so uh but other than that I found that they wanted about I don’t know about 105 pages and then I see you know when I watch the movie I see where they were they made the cuts it’s.

Host – Caryn:  [27:52] Funny because a lot of the writers I’ve interviewed have said 100 105 pages and you go on IMDB and almost all these Christmas movies are like 88 minutes so.  I guess they want to start with a big number so they can cut, but okay.  So what is your favorite script that you’ve written and why?

Lesson on Sticking to Your Vision 

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [28:17] I would say the first one, because A, it’s with my first script that was produced, the attraction test that came out in 2022. But also, I think it’s a good lesson on sticking to your guns. guns. Because, again, my original concept was about this college professor who developed a study to match people according to their physical signs of attraction to each other. And the producer said, oh, that’s too intellectual.

No, it’s just no, you have to dumb it down. And so I ended up changing it. And, you know, once you lose your passion, like my passion was about the professor and about the study and about the, you know, and the, you know, then, you know, the scientists, you know, seeing her heart rate zoom when she was, you know, around this guy. So once he had me change it to this entrepreneur who invented some smart dog collar, I lost my passion for the project.

And, you know, just coincidentally, my wife just happened to be watching the show on Netflix, which, as I said, I was like, gosh, I think I wrote something like that.

Host – Caryn:  Yeah, good.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [29:39] And so went back to it and, you know, sticking to your guns because, you know, it’s just one person’s opinion. And sometimes they’re right, but they’re not always right. In this case, they certainly were not right. Going back to my original concept is what ended up being my first production. 

Host – Caryn: Excellent. Well, good for you. Good on you. So getting a movie made can be stressful. How do you maintain a work-life balance and do you have any hobbies?

Maintaining Work-Life Balance and Hobbies

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [30:12] Yes, sports. Yeah. Um, I, I just got back 20 minutes ago from a lovely run in the woods. And if I’m not, if it’s a little chilly here, but if I wasn’t running, I would be biking, or in the gym, I’m on a tennis team.

Fun Way to solve Holiday Script problems

It’s not just about keeping, keeping fit, I find that when I’m writing a script and I have, you know, a story, a story problem, I can go for a run. I don’t know if it’s the increased oxygen to the brain, but it’s amazing how many times during that run, I’ll solve the story. I’ll solve the story problem during the run.

Host – Caryn:  It’s phenomenal.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: Yeah, it’s phenomenal.

Host – Caryn:  Well, I am going for a run today.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: You’ve I hope you have a story problem then.

Host – Caryn: I do. I, you know, good. Yeah, I do actually. Now what advice would you give to your younger self?

Advice to Younger Self and Holiday Scripts

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [31:21]  My younger, let’s say my younger writer self would be to get into the genre of TV movies much earlier, earlier because I spent so much time and effort you know back when I had a nine to five job getting up at four in the morning and you know I have two children and they were little and I you know I’d get up in you know at four o’clock in the morning and write and, You know, just, you know, trying to get a feature, you know, sold was just, you know, was just close, was just close to impossible.

Write a Holiday Script Sooner Rather than Later

And so if I had, you know, started this whole TV, you know, writing the TV movies earlier, you know, that I’m not saying that I would have sold anything back when I was, you know, 25 or 35. But I think it would have been a much easier road and more encouraging road. 

Host – Caryn:  [32:28] Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But then again, yeah. And that’s great advice and good to give to the young writers out there or any writer out there.

Also, you know, life experience, you know, you bring that to the table. So that’s great. It’s great. o to wrap up, would you like to share any social media details or website links so our audience can keep track of your work or get in touch with you? 

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [32:53]  Yeah, I’m mainly on Instagram, just Brian Ruberry. All my word on my Instagram goes to Facebook. You know, I mean, I’m on X and other things, but honestly, I don’t. I’m not very active on them. So if I have a movie or if I have whatever it is, I’ll post it on Instagram. But yeah, and that’s a good way to reach me is to DM me on Instagram.

Host – Caryn: And if people are interested in your script consulting, is that the way they get in touch with you?

Guest: Brian Ruberry: Yeah, they can. Or if they have IMDB Pro, they’ll see my email on there and they can email me.

Reaching Out to Brian for Holiday Script Consulting

[33:46]  And I enjoy working with screenwriters, especially if they’re writing a Christmas film or a TV film, because, you know, there’s, I mean, how many screenwriting books are there out there? There must be hundreds, I bet. Hundreds of screenwriting books. But how many books talk about the nine-act structure?

Host – Caryn: Right.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [34:15]  None. You can read all the books about you know about about screenwriting but writing these Christmas movies and the nine-act structures a very specific thing exactly yeah that’s a good way to reach me well.

Host – Caryn:  Brian thank you for sharing your experience and your knowledge you are an inspiration and especially I mean 40 years That is, you are amazing. And now you don’t even have to write the spec script. You know, you can just send a logline and a synopsis to the producer and that’s it. So good on you. Thank you. Thank you again for coming on the podcast.

Guest: Brian Ruberry: [34:58] Thanks, Caryn. Merry Christmas.

Host – Caryn:  Merry Christmas.

Key Takeaways from Brian’s Experience

Holiday Script Tropes

Producers and audiences want familiar stuff. However, Brian brought up a recent Christmas movie – “Three Wise Men and a Baby” and it didn’t have any of the normal tropes you find in a Christmas movie. So perhaps production companies are opening up to new and fresh ideas.

Getting a Job Just Based on a Holiday Script Synopsis

Brian mentioned even after just one sale, he can now pitch producers with just a 1-2 page synopsis and get jobs off that. He’s not saying don’t write spec scripts. He still does. But it’s a little less painful getting a pass on a synopsis versus a full script. So that’s a great reason among many for getting your first sale.

TV-Movies vs Feature Film

[35:47] You’re chances of hearing back from a producer are better if you are targeting TV movie producers versus feature film producers.

Expand Your Network of Holiday Script Producers

[36:08] First, you should have a couple of Christmas scripts, ready to go. Watch some new Christmas movies and research the companies who produced them. Use IMDB Pro.

Competitions

Some of them are money spinners. The good part is if they give free feedback – it may be helpful.

Well, that’s the show. Thank you for listening. To show your support – please give us a 5* rating on Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Sign up to be notified of the launch of our membership website. This is where writers will have the opportunity to pitch producers their Christmas scripts. Just go to www.christmasmoviescreenwriter.com and look for the signup button in the toolbar.

I’m your host, Caryn McCann. Thanks for listening!  And I’ll see you on the next Christmas Movie Screenwriter podcast.  Bye!

The Christmas Movie Screenwriter Podcast – Episode 12
Brian Ruberry, Screenwriter
Show Notes

HOST: Caryn McCann

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